Ep. 32. Benefits Of Using AI

Ep. 32. Benefits Of Using AI.

You ever plan a reset, only to have life cancel it for you? We start there: a solo hiking trip that never happened, a rough stretch of sickness, and a blunt reminder that “never zero” is not about crushing workouts. It is about keeping a standard, noticing when you slip, and refusing to let comfort talk you out of your own commitments.

From that mindset shift, Braxston and Nick move into the most practical part of the conversation: how they actually use AI in real life. They break down their day-to-day workflows with ChatGPT, Claude, and Gemini, and why the tool matters less than the way you use it. They talk about AI as a strategic operator for business planning, a systems builder for SOPs and workflows, a performance coach for training and nutrition ideas, and an engine for brand content strategy when you need a plan fast but still want it to sound like you.

They also get honest about the risks. If you let AI become a yes man, you stop thinking. If you use it to write every message, you lose your voice. We share simple rules that keep you in control, like drafting your own words first, asking AI to critique instead of create, using voice prompts to brain dump, and telling the model to ask one question at a time. They close with a reminder to take data privacy seriously and understand where your information goes as AI agents get more powerful.

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Transcript

Welcome And The Missed Trip

SPEAKER_01 0:20

Welcome to the Rising Tribes Podcast. I'm Nikki Rankar with Braxton Cave. Um, I was out last week for not the reason I was supposed to be out. Uh, but Braxton and Natalie held it down, so appreciate you guys.

SPEAKER_00 0:34

We did. I Nat was the star of the show, as usual. But I think you should go in and tell people. So we let in in the podcast talking about you going on your trip and your getaway that didn't come to fruition.

SPEAKER_01 0:48

So when you update everybody on well, what's actually funny is my wife, after listening to the podcast, was like, They said you went on your trip. You didn't even go on your trip. And I was like, I know, but but I was going to still go when they did the podcast. So I was supposed to leave on Thursday. Uh I like to take solo trips slash, you know, maybe one other person with me and just go places. And a lot of times they're like, well, where do you go? I'm like, wherever I go. Like, there's really not a plan. This time I actually had a plan. I wanted to go and hike in Red River Gorge, which I had no idea what it was until about two months ago. All I did was I went into chat, which we're obviously going to talk about AI stuff today. And I went in and I said, Hey, find some of the most beautiful places within seven hours of where I live that you can hike and feel like you're in a different like world. And it popped up a bunch, and one was Red River Gorge, and I started looking at the pictures, and I was like, This is what? Like, this is crazy. And it was in Kentucky, so I just decided that's where I'm going. Um there's a lot I want to say there was 60 miles of trails, like it's you can camp in there, you can do tons of different stuff. Um, and I just wanted to go and see some of these pictures. Um, and then really the main goal of it is to get outside of the normal schedule, the day-to-day, the you know, life, and essentially get uncomfortable finding myself. Have un for me, I love to kind of break myself down, if that makes sense, where I I get uncomfortable, I start questioning certain things, like why am I this way, or why do I let things these things bother me, or why do I act this way in these situations? And I don't have a way to get out of continuing that conversation. And I think a lot of times for me, I can get uncomfortable with myself and then immediately find something to distract me from thinking about it. So I love the trip for that. Um, however, on Monday night, I felt a little funny. Tuesday woke up, didn't feel great, and it was the weirdest thing. As the day went on on Tuesday, I got worse. Like my body felt worse, I got more tired. Wednesday I woke up feeling the same as I felt on Tuesday night, but I was like, you know what? I should go to the gym. And I went to the gym and I felt horrible. Like I, my body didn't work. It was, I mean, I did stuff, but about 20 minutes in, I was like, I am out. Like I'm out. And when I left, I just got exponentially worse. And I was planning on leaving Thursday, and I'm like, well, I'm definitely gonna leave. Woke up Thursday morning and felt worse. I'm like, all right, I'm not leaving. And then I got worse as the day went on, and I'm and Chelsea's like, I don't think you're going on your trip. And I was like, I'm going Friday. Woke up Friday and all of a sudden started a fever. And it just got worse. And I'm like, I guess I'm not going on my trip. Woke up Saturday, same thing. And Sunday I finally started to feel better. And I think that's when I was like, well, there's a reason. Chelsea's like, there's a reason you didn't go on that trip, just so you know. I'm like, maybe. I think the reason is I was sick, but so I didn't get to go do my my solo trip. I was gonna take our dog too this time, and uh yeah, I stayed here in bed, sick, and I'm just my voice is still not quite right.

SPEAKER_00 4:22

Yeah, you sounded horrible. Yeah, we went and we dropped off some stuff at their house on Sunday, and I I kept a distance from them. So I'm like, whatever, whatever you got going right now, I don't need that in my life, but you you sounded terrible. And and you put out uh a pretty transparent message on social and and I had a couple people hit me up and they're like, man, Nick sounds horrible. So it was real, it was real, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:54

It was, and I don't I don't get I mean if I get sick or if I feel a certain way, it's normally pretty quick. And there's been a few times over the last like

Getting Sick And Breaking Standards

SPEAKER_01 5:05

I mean around COVID time I was real sick, and then this just the length of time that it stayed with me, I'm just not used to that. So it definitely messes with you a little bit because you're so used to being so regimented in what you're doing and how I mean I didn't eat wrong, I was still still had an appetite, but just not doing anything, feeling lethargic, feeling like you're just wasting away, and you're like, I can't even pretend like I'm doing anything to the point of I my transparent post, I totally forgot to even move. And that's been my goal, never zero. And I basically made a post and said I did zero. I literally woke up, realized I didn't even do a burpee. And I had a lot of people that were like, it's okay, like blah, blah, blah. And I was like, no, that's not what I need to hear right now. I need you guys to be like, hey, you've got today. What are you doing today? Like, I don't care that I was sick. I don't care. Like, what I've what I've seen, I've been, unfortunately, I have been around people that have passed or been close to passing, and all that they want to do is something, right? Like you put somebody in a bed and they're just like, get me out of this bed, right? Like they don't want to be like, well, woe is me. I'm laying in a bed, this is where I should be. They don't want somebody saying, no, no, no. They're like, shut up. People get angry. And like I started to get angry when people were trying to make it okay that I didn't move. It wasn't that I needed to do an hour workout. It was just that I made this commitment to myself. I didn't hold the commitment, call me out on it, and I was angry that people were just so nonchalantly like, okay. And it made me realize they're only like that because now I'm one of them. And I'm not saying that like you, but meaning when people don't do anything, they don't want you to do anything. So when you mess up, it's easy for someone to root for you. That's okay. I'm like, that's not rooting for me. Right. That's that's justifying their actions. Yeah. So whereas, like, but when you're winning, you don't get like cheers. Like when you're truly when you're winning, but in order to win, you've got to be in the dirt and in the mud, and that's when people will hold you down. And that's what it felt like. It felt like me being like, hey, I got zero, and they're like, it's okay, you need to heal up, you should go to the doctor, you should do all this stuff. And I'm like, no, I should have done a burpee. It was it. It has nothing to do with, like, uh it wouldn't have changed me. So I was very like, you can hear it, like I was mad where I'm like, no, I set this standard and I let myself down. Had nothing to do with the sickness. Like, but but I will tell you, the sickness is what allowed me to have a lapse in, I wasn't focused on it. And that's where you realize like there are seasons and things that will take your focus. That's okay. It's acknowledging that like that's not every day. And yes, one day I didn't, and it hasn't happened since. And it might happen again. It's I think it's Lou Holtz who said, our goal is perfection, though we never know we'll hit we we know we will never hit it, but it doesn't mean we don't try. That to me is the never zero. It's I'm going to have zero days, but that doesn't mean I don't try to never have one. That's that's where I got angry, that's where I got upset, that's why I made that that later post, because I'm like, no, like I'm still striving. Put me in a bed and I'm still gonna be like, dude, roll me out. Like I'm gonna try. Or I'm gonna forget and I'm gonna get pissed. And I'm like, you should have rolled me out, you should have told me. Like somebody should have said, hey, did you still do your thing? And I'm not blaming not being sick, I was sick, but that's where I'm like, okay, I still have to hold myself to a standard at all times.

SPEAKER_00 8:40

So I'm I'm really interested.

Solo Time And Earning Experiences

SPEAKER_00 8:45

I think we could dive into this again when you get another trip schedule, but I think you you hit on it earlier. It's um really focusing on some intentional like self-reflection time. And I think many of us, myself included, like don't do that enough or ever. And you know, for me personally, you you and I have had a handful of conversations around this, and like I'm I'm a highly extroverted person, like I don't like being alone, like ever. Um, so like when I travel for business is probably the most amount of time when I'm you know, quote unquote alone. And that's like once I leave the site or office or wherever I'm at for travel, it's you know, doing dinner by myself or being alone in the hotel or at the hotel gym. Like, that's really the only solo time that I ever get. And to for me, like, like that's enough. Where my wife's like, yeah, like send me away for a couple days and like I'll come back as a new human. Whereas for me, like send me on a trip with you know a group of buddies or something, that fills my cup. And and you and I had had the conversation of like, maybe that's something that you need. And I'm like, I don't even know what I would do with myself. And you're like, well, you figure it out.

SPEAKER_01 10:14

Yeah, that's that's what I love about it, is um, and I have I told you this, I think it was maybe in 2019 when I kind of first did my all right, I'm just gonna try this out, like I'm gonna do something. And it ended up being a thing that I'm like, I would have never done this, I'm probably not gonna enjoy it. And I learned that I don't know what I don't know, and I never really had hiked any long distances, let alone like mountains. Like I'd done like different things, but the more I started to get out into nature and get outside, the more I realized like it wasn't that I loved hiking, I loved, you know, obviously like mountains look cool, right? But like to get to the top of a mountain, and you're like, whoa, like this is not for everybody. To the point of I recently had uh I saw a post it if you've you're out there, there's a show called The Agent. Have you seen his post? Okay, so there's a show called The Agent, and he explained this to a T how I feel. He said, I was scrolling through social media, like he's like, I just and this is the main actor.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

Oh, is this the Mount Everest?

SPEAKER_01 11:29

Yeah, and he said, I scrolled, and a guy climbed Mount Everest and took a photo of it, and he's like, and I got to see what it looks like being on top of Mount Everest. He said, I was never supposed to see that. He's like, that guy walked over dead bodies who all they wanted to do was to see what it looked like at the top of Everest, and they didn't even make it. He's like, and I was sitting there staring, going, I shouldn't be seeing this. And he's like, and that's what I realized social media did, is it took me to it to it gave me the ability to experience things I shouldn't be experiencing. It gave me the ability to see things I shouldn't be seeing, to to feel like I've done things I haven't earned. Right, I didn't earn it. So he basically said, I got off social media. I realized I needed to earn those. And that's what I felt like. There are there when I can explain to somebody what I've gone through out in the woods, they have to take my word for it. You don't even understand what I've seen. I can show a picture, but like the hour and a half to three and a half hours of just straight up something and not knowing what's around the corner, not what knowing what it's actually gonna look like, not knowing where the top is. And the whole time you're just you're questioning yourself, you're like, oh like my calves hurt, or all this, and then it transitions into like, why am I even out here? Or like, am I gonna see something crazy? And then eventually you're just like, why do I get angry? Like, where right now would I be angry? Like, where is the opportunity for me to get angry? And you're like, there isn't one. Yeah, so why is there then you just start, I I just start constantly having these dialogues, and then next thing you know, you're standing at the top of the mountain, you're like, you're like, and I just worked through some stuff. So in 2019, I started and I've realized, and I've said this to you, that like you have to go out and actually understand what you do and don't like. You can't just believe what you say. I think I do it all the time, right? Like, oh no, I don't like that, or I would never do that, or uh, why? Because I'm scared. Because I've never tried it, because of the people that do it are weird, like what like right? Like, we have all these other reasons. Like, I have a bias towards things that I like because I know I'm good at them, and I don't I'm I'm not naturally gifted at being out in the outdoors. I don't know what I'm doing. And I'm like, but nobody knew what they were doing when they first went out. So long-winded, like now I just enjoy putting myself in a position where I don't have an easy outlet to change directions. Example would be I struggle sitting by myself. You say sit for 30 minutes, eventually I'm gonna be on AI looking something up, or I'm gonna open up my phone and be like, I don't want to be on social media, but I'm gonna close in and close out and close in and close out and go into an app and do this thing and turn on the TV or turn on like and I'm going to find a way to not have to sit. But when you're when you're out in a place where you have no other option but to be with yourself, you'll find a way to figure out how to talk to you.

SPEAKER_00 14:29

What are we talking about today?

Why AI Matters Right Now

SPEAKER_01 14:31

AI. We are talking about AI today, and and more so, like how do we use it right now?

SPEAKER_00 14:41

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, obviously AI is the hottest topic going around, and and so talking through, you know, we wanted to be able to spend some time talking about like how how do we actually use it in our day-to-day lives. There's a lot of people out there who have heard of AI or they think they know what it is, but don't actually utilize it. And there's people out there that do utilize it. And I I know one of the one of the biggest things that I see people talk about is like stop using AI like Google, right? Quit just asking it like the random questions. I think there's a use for that. Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 15:16

It is in the in the form Google.

SPEAKER_00 15:19

But there's definitely opportunities to use AI um to maximize, to become more efficient, to learn things at a very, very fast pace that would otherwise take us months, years to learn. And we want to talk through today how do we best utilize it? What's our strategy with it?

SPEAKER_01 15:42

So you want to go first?

Tools And Daily AI Workflow

SPEAKER_01 15:46

I'll start. So I I would say I'm somebody that's been using, I've been using AI in many different forms, whether it's software, um, website, marketing, you know, there's a lot of spin-off, like very niche types of things that I've used. Um, and I've probably been using chat pretty qu early on. Um I don't remember what one of maybe the second model that ever came out is when I started using it. And I used it like Google. Just you know, then you type in like what are all the prompts to do all these things? So you start doing prompts. And what's actually happened now more recently is I've realized there's a lot of different opportunities to understand the different models. So now I use ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude, um, and then I'll use a lot of their side things. Um, and I basically am just trying to figure out what works best for me. So I pretty much wake up every single morning and I get my coffee, I will open up the Granger app, I'll get on, I'll read, you know, I'll do my scripture, take my time, and then I'll put that away and I'll try to just like sit, which turns into me on my phone. And by the time I get onto my phone, is when I'll grab my computer and I'll go into currently I'm going into Claude or Gemini. Um, I feel like they are at this stage better than ChatGPT for what I'm trying to do. And what I'll do is I'll just start talking through ideas that I have in my head, or some of the goals that I want to do, or some of the things that maybe I'm not feeling great about where I'm at in my business. Mainly at this point, it's it's business chats. And I'll essentially use it as an assistant to just talk with me through. Well, okay, here's what we've been doing over the last while, and here's kind of what I it'll say, like here's what I kind of think we should do right now. And then I might disagree and be like, no, which I've told it, do not agree with me, do not make me feel good, do not tell me I'm right, do not, I said, be completely honest with me, to the point of I made a video where I was pissed off and I posted it, and I explained what I did in the video, and it said, uh, that was wrong. You should take that video down. So I did. And it was it was right, it was wrong, it was emotional. I was upset. Um, and it was it was in an app with a bunch of members of certain stuff, and I was like, wow, if I would have never told it to like be on, don't agree with me, don't tell me I'm right, like it would have said, good video, good job. You're so smart and amazing.

SPEAKER_00 18:29

Which is like one of the biggest complaints right now about AI is that it's just kind of like a yes man and just agrees with everything you say. And so if you're not intentional about putting that in there of like shoot it to me straight, like don't champ, please challenge everything. Like I think that's a really important thing that you gotta add in there because otherwise you're just it's just gonna tell you everything you want to hear. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:52

And I'll write, so I do I write emails every week, I do build out on my websites, um, constantly my apps. So it pretty much has a grasp of my business and the businesses, and we will write out plans for kind of everything. And I do this every single day, and sometimes I just start over and sometimes I continue. What I love about Claude right now is that it does it does a really good job of you ever probably been on AI where you're you're getting deep into something. So certain things I do might take an hour, hour and a half, and by the time I get to where I'm like, got it, it forgets the first half hour of what we talked about. I have not had that issue with Claude. And now with Claude co-work, where it w works on the back end of different stuff, oh my gosh. And they're they're coding. Like base 44 we've talked about. Base 44 is a uh um basically it codes, websites and apps.

SPEAKER_00 19:55

If somebody ever said to me, I don't really like it because it doesn't work how I want it, I'd be like, then you don't understand how to think in a way that is different than what you've seen, like how the internet works, like it sounds like Yeah, I think the interesting thing about it is like the the outputs are only as good as the inputs. And so if people are aren't getting out of it what they want, it's because you aren't putting in useful information, which I think relates to anything, right? Like if you want this result, like this is what has to go in, and people would rather it just be handed to them.

SPEAKER_01 20:38

So, how do you use it? I'm guessing you use it pretty early too.

SPEAKER_00 20:40

Yeah, so I uh same thing.

Five Practical Ways Braxton Uses AI

SPEAKER_00 20:43

I when I first started dabbling with it, like I didn't know what I was doing. And I thought when we started discussing, like, hey, let's have a an episode where we talk around around AI and how we use it. The first thing that came to mind was, well, I'm gonna ask my AI, AI agent, how do I use you? Right, let it tell me, you know, it's captured all the inputs that I put into this, regurgitate that information back to me of how in a summarized version of how I best utilize you. And so I'll give you guys the the top five ways that I use it. And some of this correlates to, you know, my my corporate life and leading teams and building teams and the structure of that, and then also you know, my my personal life. So uh my what it said is my primary use is as a strategic operator, which makes perfect sense. Um we need like one of those cough buttons. Oh yeah, don't worry. Um so as a strategic strategic operator, you know, I'm using this for like business frameworks as I'm working through like different strategies, doing you know, creating clarity around. That um decision validation, I think, is a big one. So, you know, I'll go through and I have like, hey, I'm I'm thinking about this idea, uh, this is the way I would go about it, you know, play devil's advocate and challenge the way I'm thinking. Like, those are the kind of things that I will use that for from an operator aspect. I'll tell you guys, like, as I said earlier when we were talking about the solo trips, like, I what when it comes to business, also, like, yeah, I'll brainstorm ideas, but I I like to collaborate and work with people on projects. Like, I'm not ever the type of person that wants to come, I want to work on a project by myself and then present and think that I've got it all figured out. Like, that's just not how I operate. And so having a useful AI agent to bounce ideas off of and almost have it be a collaborative effort has been super helpful to me. So, number two is systems builder. So, same thing. It's program design, SOP style fly um workflows, creating like dashboards and trackers. Like, I love being able to have just very visible, you know, like screenshots of you know where we're at and in progress and data, and versus having to constantly dig through and look through multiple spreadsheets and files. Like, I love having easy access to that at my fingertips. More so on like the personal side is is it says my number three was a performance coach extension. So, as you guys know, when it comes to fitness and lifestyle and nutrition, like all these things, like I only know so much, I know what I know. Um I like to be able to utilize this into like different modalities of training, different ways to look at you know, nutrition. Obviously, there's some I gave it my basic guidelines of what I know works for me, but then you know, this is where like that creative portion comes into it of oh, I I never thought of it like that, or these are some different useful tools. It's no different than like how I will bounce things off of you, like your training modalities and the way the things that you've learned over time are different than than what I know. This is no different than that. And then another one here is brand content and strategy. So around like our rising tribes coaching and you know working with um you know different people and leaders, it's like how do I what kind of content do I want to be able to present? And like I always want content to be authentic, so I think that's where like the better your AI agent knows you, what's important to you, it can spit out and and create things that again, if I were to sit down with a blank piece of paper and say, hey, I wanna this is what I'm going to post on social for the next seven days, like that would take me who knows how long. Whereas AI can do that for me like instantly. Um and then the last one of my top five was operational load relief. And so that just comes from you know, we're we're all managing business and we have families and wives and kids and events and all these things. And so I'll go in and and I'll figure out ways to take things off of my plate, or how do I, how can I systemize this? And um that's been super helpful for me of you know, not feeling like I need to carry the weight of of all this, like you know, it worked. Like I don't have an executive assistant, like I don't have someone that helps with my schedule and various things, like that's all on me. So having this um as a tool has taken a lot of that workload off of me. So that would be my the top five ways that I use it.

AI Agents And Better Inputs

SPEAKER_01 26:03

I think you said it a few times, the AI agent. I think that that's more so what you're gonna start to hear um around AI a lot more now is uh I think currently people are fearful of like losing your job or for some reason about you know whatever it is that you're doing. And and right now I'd say software SaaS companies are really feeling that because of all this coding that now can be done. But what they're I think what's actually happening is you're realizing you a person can now become much more productive. So the tools, so I think the software that is being used by people, AI can now go in and and essentially utilize the tool more efficiently. And it can help you utilize these tools. So the AI agents because becomes almost like an assistant, like you're saying, you have this assistant, and they're gonna eventually be able to go into these softwares and into these tools and be more efficient at using them and be faster at using them. And now what it's gonna come down to is instead of like people coding or having to sit down and brainstorm how are we gonna do this? They basically just say, like, these are the things that we want done, and then the agent goes and does them. So where I think the value of people is gonna come into is just what you said earlier, it is the inputs. Who has the best inputs is going to give you the best outcomes, like so the better that you are at at communicating, and one of the things that obviously I think a lot of people are typing into the chats, right? They're talking, they're typing into them. One of the best ways to, I feel the most um the easiest way to use a chat right now is actually voice to just talk things out. I think there's so often that we put in as little as we can and in hopes that we get this giant, amazing, perfect thing that we didn't have to do anything for. But the more that you can chat and just speak and not have to worry about being perfect and clear, I one of the number one prompts that I like to use is I have an outcome that I want to get to. And let's say that it's I want, you know, I had just told you, like I would love to get 500 more members into Zeus in the next 90 days. Well, if that's my outcome, then I would say to Chad, I'd be like, hey, you know, I really want to gain 500 more members. Here's my website, here's currently what we've talked about, here's what I'm doing, here's my back end, and like I'm basically here's all of my data. I'm just wanting to know like what do we need to do and how can we do it to get me to 500 people in the next 90 days? And what I want you to do is just ask me one question at a time, don't give me any answers, don't tell me anything that like I have to start doing right now, but just really get to understand the nitty-gritty. And if we get because what happens is as you do that, you're gonna start to realize, like, oh wait, that's not really what I meant. You're like, actually, scratch that. This is and what what it does is it gives you the time to really decipher and think through what am I really trying to do and how am I trying to help? Like, for me, that's my biggest thing. How do I get value and how do I help? And as you're going through, eventually, it won't ever stop until it'll just be like it'll keep going and keep going. And I realize, like, eventually, I'm like, wait a minute, we're just kind of like continuing to keep going. I'm like, all right, tell me what you got so far.

SPEAKER_00 29:39

I think that's that's one thing that if people haven't used any of the platforms yet, that this wouldn't make sense. But those who have, I think it's really important that when you go through and you start asking these questions, you're like, give me one question at a time. Because it'll like, here, answer these 50 questions, and then we'll and I'm like, nope, ask me one question at a time. The other thing, like you were just mentioning, I'm also a huge fan of talking with it.

Voice Chats And Avoiding Dependence

SPEAKER_00 30:08

Uh, I spend a lot of time driving, um, you know, a lot of windshield time. So like I'll put my phone up and hit it and like just have a conversation. And people a lot of people are like, that is weird. And maybe it is. Uh, for me though, like it's a great way to just take everything I have in my head and brain dump it and have a conversation. And usually by the end of that, like I've figured out what I need to figure out.

SPEAKER_01 30:36

And so I think it sounds weird when you say that, but I know for me, and I'm wondering about you, like when you have those conversations, it doesn't feel super personal, like where you're just like best friends. It feels like you you're like, wow, I'm able to do something I couldn't do by myself. Yeah, I mean, I think there's I don't feel like I'm friends with my chat.

SPEAKER_00 30:57

No, no, not at all. Which that we could probably do a whole nother episode on you know some of the relationships that people have built with AI agents, but no, for me, like I look at it purely as a tool. I mean, it's not it's nothing more than that. And I'll tell you this also, like, I don't agree with everything that that I get back. So that's that's probably another piece to it of like you have to have a human filter of like, yeah, this this is clicking or this sounds right, or no, this isn't.

SPEAKER_01 31:30

And then one thing that I've that I would challenge people to do that I've had to start doing more of is the more that you use it, the more you feel reliant on it. Like, oh, I don't want to send this email because I need to like do this, or like, oh, I don't know what to say, I want to ask. And it it is it is if you continue down that path, it will truly turn into the have you seen the jokes of like people having a conversation, they're like, I just stepped in a room with somebody, what do I say? And they're like, say hi. Hi. They said hi back, what do I say? Oh, how are you doing? So, like eventually you you can't communicate. So, my challenge is not to go in expecting to get you back. Like, hey, how do I send, how do I respond to this email? Well, it's not you, yeah. Okay, it understand you. Write the email as you think it should be written, and then say, hey, this is what I would write back. How's that sound? And it'll be like, Well, are you trying to sound professional? Because if you're trying to sound professional, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, then then change, but like you should always keep as much of you early on into it, especially a lot. I mean, there's times where I've shown you, I'm like, here's what I wrote, and it'll be like three pages of stuff because I want to not ever feel like I don't have something to say.

SPEAKER_00 32:46

I think that's another piece is one, going back to like the whole so reliant upon it. I think it's also this is probably the one of the biggest negatives with AI is like you're taking a generation that already doesn't know how to communicate, and you're making it even worse. Like the face-to-face conversation, being able to hold conversation where like that that's a that's a lost skill with some of the the generations of now, and I think this only multiplies that. Um but it's I think the the number one thing with AI is people also who are at least savvy enough with it can spot instantly whether it's authentically you or it's just AI garbage, right? Especially when you when you see it in print, you know almost immediately whether it was really came from someone or not. Now, the whole image thing, that that's a whole nother deal of figuring out whether those are really.

Real World Uses Beyond Email

SPEAKER_01 34:09

Or a CPA or an accountant or a doctor, and a doctor probably be a tougher one in that, but ultimately you can still start there. But example, like for me, I used to pay a lot of money for like leases or you know, documents, like you can go on. I've created every single one of my leases for our rentals with AI. And because we do, I've had so many people who have contacted me and asked, like, how do we create our you know, lease terms and all of our stuff and blah blah blah? And can we can we use yours? And I just send it over. I'm like, yeah. But I think we still are at a point where we're using it for very basic things that we don't need to use it for. Like, how do I write this email to a friend? Hey, like talk to the friend. But yet you're like, oh, but there's these things I don't understand. I'm gonna go pay somebody when you could just ask the question, and you could actually ask, hey, I have this question, who should I go to for this in my area? Like, and that's where you're like, you were like Google, like you can use it as a Google and then ask, like, okay, what are some things they should know before I walk into that meeting?

SPEAKER_00 35:17

Right. I and going back to for me, like the one of the things I really love about it is you know, like you you use the example of like lease terms, right? Hey, dial up this lease, this is what I'm looking for, blah, blah, blah. But then also then sending the follow-up of like, and explain this to me so that I understand it. Right. Don't just ask it to do the work. Yeah, actually understand what it is they're actually doing, what you're actually signing, having someone sign it.

SPEAKER_01 35:43

Yes, and that's where I think a lot we are, it gets so easy to become reliant because we're taking step one, this basic step, and then having it do 10 of them, and then we get to the finish line and we walk away and we're like, wow, I could have never done that without them. It's like that's kind of the problem. Like we we we want to become, we still want to be dangerous, like we still want to be like, hey, I I look at AI and I look at these as like a way for me to speed up my learning, not a way for me to do less.

SPEAKER_00 36:12

Right. And I think that's that's the point I exactly the point I was trying to get to is like yes, this can do the work that maybe you would have had someone you would have paid someone for, but you also need to take the next step of actually understanding what it is that it did for you. And that's where I think it you can get the it's almost like the the lazy version of using it, and then like the useful learning version of it.

SPEAKER_01 36:42

And I think you I know you probably use I use it both ways. I use it lazy where I'm just like I I don't want to Google it. This will probably give me more information. I'm just gonna find some dumb thing I'm interested in.

SPEAKER_00 36:52

Yeah, I mean I think it depends on like what are you using it for something serious or like something more like hobby related?

SPEAKER_01 36:58

And it's become the the Google for me. I mean, if you look on my windows right now on my phone, I have in one two AI platforms, two different ones, and in the middle, I have a platform that utilizes AI for contacting. Then I have my notes, which is essentially questions for AI, then I have a co-working AI. So 70% of the windows or more that are open up have some form of AI related. And it's mainly just to speed up my browsing process. Because the stuff I'm asking, I would be Googling, and then I'd be like, okay, I just learned this. Now how do I go and open up a PDF or how do I go in my website or how I do this? And instead I can break it all down before I ever have to go to the new platform.

SPEAKER_00 37:43

Yeah, I mean, I if if I look in through mine, you know, it's everything from like strategic planning and systems to um you know creating a new business to like here's a silly, this is almost kind of like a Google one of I I asked it to um create me a a checklist to make sure that I am utilizing all the benefits of my Amex Platinum card. Right? Because you know, that's to me that was you probably learned three new benefits you didn't know. Yeah, and it's like and and I s and create uh the timeline in which I need to because some of them are monthly, some of them are quarterly, and some of them are annual. And it's like so to me, like that's a that's a silly one, it's not super serious, but it's it that's an easy way to utilize its capability. So do it.

Privacy Risks And Closing Takeaways

SPEAKER_01 38:41

Well, sweet. I mean, there's obviously a lot, it and it's only improving. I mean, for me, I said I've used a lot of different Claude currently is what I'm using, but that's been recent. Gemini I was using before that, I just realized I needed to understand more of these, and I don't think everybody needs to understand it, but I do think we need to not be super reliant on it as I think we can be reliant for sure, but we need to be the ones that are leading the charge over being led. And I think right now there are a lot of people who are being led by AI. Um, and and it just like you can see it when you're getting an email from somebody or you're reading something that was written and you're like, that was AI, you can be sit with somebody and be like, I'm pretty sure that they got that from AI.

SPEAKER_00 39:31

Like they I I came across the post the other day that said, like, make sure that you're investing in in researching, understanding your your health now, because your doctor in 10 years is in medals is in medical school right now using AI to pass classes. And it's like they're not wrong.

SPEAKER_01 39:50

No, they're not wrong. No, they're not wrong. And that's where it's like, wait a minute, I know as much as my doctor knows because I can just I have the same resources, but I have the paid version.

SPEAKER_00 40:02

I I would say the last thing when it comes to AI is uh I before you dive into it, make sure you do your research and know, you know, kind of the the backgrounds of the companies, where your data's going. Um, you know, there's I think you know, there's a lot of conversations around, you know, the next war or so is is may not be guns and missiles, right? It's gonna be on the tech side and and how your data is used across different platforms. And so just being informed and doing your research of where that information's going and and taking the steps necessary to protect your information is is really important.

SPEAKER_01 40:42

Yep. Awesome. Well, sweet.

SPEAKER_00 40:46

I feel like we just scratched the surface of all of it, but I hope hopefully it gets some people thinking and and people will submit some some questions or or topics that they want us to dive in deeper when it comes to all things AI.

SPEAKER_01 40:57

Oh, yeah. And make sure, subscribe, share this with anybody who's interested in AI. Um, I think at this stage, most people are at least scratching the surface of what that looks like in their life, and it's only gonna get bigger and there's only gonna be more. And I mean, it's as exciting as it is scary. And I think this is the scary part is just not knowing really where we're going, but we're going fast. So I want to understand as much as I can, even though I'm not the brightest, but I want to at least be in on what's happening. Right. So thank you guys for listening. Share this out, appreciate you. See you soon. See you soon.